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PT0S – St Peter and St Paul RocksTuesday Nov 27, 2012
UPDATE from Pilot station HA5X:
After a long journey at sea, the team is now safely back to Brazil, where they are trying to catch up with what they had no chance for on the rocks. That is sleep and food – Latest news
The log of the last day was sent and is posted to the Logsearch, Clublog and LoTW. Also they have now been finally able to send – pictures.
June 28, 2012: The Araucaria DX Group, in conjunction with the TX3A Team, is pleased to announce a DXpedition to St. Peter and St. Paul Rocks, PY0S, under the call sign PT0S. The DXpedition will take place approx November 10-22, 2012. PT0S website.
There has been an official ban on Amateur Radio activities from PY0S. Although the ban, which was created for environmental and safety reasons, remains in place, the Araucaria DX Group was given a special permit by Brazil’s SECIRM (Secretaria da Comissao Interministerial para Os Recursos do Mar), the Brazilian Navy, Ministry of Environment and LABRE to conduct a two week long operation.
The operation will have a strong low band focus. There will be a dedicated 160 meter station operating on 160 meters from sunset to sunrise. A second station will be on 80 and 40 meters at night. During the day we will operate two stations on the higher bands — and 6 meters — based on conditions. RTTY will also be supported.
The DXpedition’s goal is to give this rare and difficult entity to as many amateurs as possible, taking maximum advantage of this unique opportunity. The group will be using newly designed RX antennas and receiving equipment to allow small and QRP stations to work PT0S on all bands, but especially on 80 and 160 meters.
All QSOs will be loaded onto LoTW within 36 hours of taking place.
Operators will be Fred Carvalho PY2XB (PY2XB/PY0F, PQ0F, VP5/PY2XB, 8P9XB), Peter Sprengel PP5XX/PY5CC (PY0FM, PW0T, HK0NA). Tomi Pekarik, HA7RY and George Wallner, AA7JV. Due to environmental considerations, we have been limited to four operators.
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please inforum yourself about ARRL DXCC programm and therefore you need at least 1 QSO per band and mode. So maximum should not exceed 160m-10m 9 + 2 (for modes)….or you can have also fullhouse with 9 QSOs. I am not using it but also try to get them least 1 band. Should be ok for everybody. To reduce it and say only 1 QSO, is a joke.
I am thankful to the PT0S group and any DXpedition that places their lives at risk to give us a new one. I will say that my strategy has changed on working these guys due to the enormous pileups and people needing to work them. Normally, I try to work the DXpedition on all the “Clublog band slots” if it is a large operation. However, due to the limited scope of PT0S, I limited it to once per band (for ARRL DX Challenge) plus once per mode (ARRL DXCC). If no one was calling them, I picked them up on a second slot.
We all have our areas of the world that are difficult to work – it is frustrating when a DXpedition seems to favor one area over another – I get especially agitated when operations in the Indian Ocean only work JA and don’t seem try to hit the narrow window to the USA Midwest. However, this is not life and death – only a hobby.
On the other hand, when PT0S calls for Asia or Oceania and many of my fellow numb-nuts countrymen still continue to call, I get pretty ticked off – shut up and let the difficult areas through!!!!
Good luck and God Bless!
Hams are greedy, selfish and live in a bubble—like everyone else. I am one of those who think the Clublog trip feeds into this deplorable state, but I get shouted down.
Garry, NI6T
I agree that there’s a lot of selfishness out there. Once per band and once per mode is all that anyone needs, especially when there are so many that still haven’t worked them at all.
But I’d also suggest that the ops at PT0S could have done a better job of managing the process. Listening on 15cw this morning I heard only one id in over an hour, and never “UP” (except from the policemen who just added to the mess.
On SSB the other night, the pileup was 30khz wide, which isn’t fair to others using the band.
I wish all dxpeditions would train their operators in the DX Code of Conduct operations techniques. In my opinion, that would allow for more contacts and less confusion and frustration.
Awesome effort from these guys, I know how they feel to put on a Dxpedition from a rare location, and thats the problem, many Dxers don’t know the hardships that these guys have had, not just on the island but the planning that is involved prior to the Dxpedition.
Its very easy to sit in your shack and complain that they are not on this band or that mode at the time you want them too be on. As the team leader for 4W6A I even had an Amateur e-mail me and winge that I was not on 20m when he got home from work.
I am very happy that I have managed to work them on 15m SSB (one QSO only) for a new DXCC – I am not going to try for another QSO, as one is enough for me, yes I would like them on other bands and modes but I know there are many others that need it for one off DXCC new one, so I will give these guys the chance, I feel that if I worked them on 19 slots that 18 Operators have missed a new Country.
I think we need to remember the work / hardships that Dxpeditioners have to endure to make you the Dxer happy ..
Well done guys , great effort for just getting on air from this very remote and rare location , and have a safe trip home to your families …
73,s Stuie VK8NSB
Thanks to all team members for the work!
PT0S is #323 New One for me, and I’m very happy that I was made a QSO on 40 meters CW!
Wish you a good health and have fun!
I believe, that I can made more QSO’s if you will work in CQ WW CW.
Reports are that they’ve extended their stay through the CQ WW this weekend.
So far, worked about 9500 unique calls. No wonder the pileups are still so big – the 16th most wanted country, and there’s lots more still trying for the first time.
I think dxpeditions should be recognized for the most unique calls worked as the top measure of success, with total number of contacts being a secondary consideration.
A HUGE thank you to the ops of PT0S. These guys have carried on quite well under EXTREMLY difficult and sometimes dangerous conditions. To date, they have handed out almost 30,000 QSO’s to nearly 10,000 different hams and still have a few more days to go. For just 4 ops working under such demanding conditions this is a spectacular achievment.
Of course the demand for this rare one is high and folks are nothing less then frenzied in their efforts to make a Q with them. Please be patient and please STAND BY when they are asking for a different part of the world than your own. You look foolish if you don’t.
-Dean
KW7XX
Thank you for my all-time new DXCC and IOTA. I think that we cannot appreciate too much for the efforts and struggles that you have been making on your remote location.
As for the propagation between PT0S and Japan, it looks like 30mb seems to be the best so far. When you operated for a long time on 30mb a few days ago, I could hear you almost all day, although you were strongest after our sunrise (22-00Z) and before our sunset (07-08Z). I suspect that you worked relatively smaller number of unique calls from Asia, and it looks like that the best band to increase the number is 30mb.
Looking at the statistics, it is obvious that Asia is the hardest area to work you. We always have difficulty to work any stations located in the Atlantic Ocean.
Wishing you the best of luck for the remainder of your Dx-pedition.
Icko, JA1BPA
I don’t care what anyone else says, you guys did and are doing great. I haven’t had a chance to work you as when the QRM builds, you call by zones and those zones doesn’t include Hawaii. If I missed this DXpedition, they’ll be others.
73 and Mahalo and Have a safe journey home!
Delwyn, KH6DC
Well done to expedition team, they are very skilled and resourcefull.
DX Hogs can be ashamed of being pigs.
Complainers – grow up!
Site tells us about constant hardship team has to endure,
Despite all, standard of CW was outstanding.
Thanks for QSO boys (I wanted 1 – not 37 QSOs).
I can’t say how I am thankful to the team for their huge work. Whenever I can read their updated news, with their living conditions, and the patience they have to remain awake despite they are so tired, I can consider this DxPedition is one of the best of this last years.
Some people will still complain using the cluster to spread their bad opinion and bad feeling, but I’m nearly sure if a survey was made on Internet or within DX club & association, PT0S and their operator would be thanks for what they have done.
With 13 operators, 7O6T was able to make about 800 QSO/day per operator (based on ClubLog statistics).
With 4 operators, PT0S are able to make about 850 QSO/day per operator.
They are making huge effort to deserve all part of the world. Of course some Dx Hunter are disappointed cause they can’t always be at the good time while the PT0S team work and request for a particular area, but we can’t make any criticisme. They are using the good equipement, they are making their best to have some great antenna, they made tests before they left, and I never heard anyone complaining about the skill of any operator (CWs’s Ops are going fast, but not that fast, easy to recognize compared to a pirate station, RTTY Station always use the same and quick macro, once again noway to think we made a QSO with a fake station, and Peter behind the Mic is just awesome like he was when operating from 3D2C).
Also I can say the lastest news updated each day is really useful for DX hunter. We can understand their problems and feeling; each news is very will summarized.
I worked my self hard in my garden to build quickly some dipoles, and beverage to work them on some band I’m not used to operate from, and I feel for every QSO happy for the whole DX community for such amazing operation.
Cédric
Great job you made ! Ask to the other to leave their comfortable seat and go to a most wanted entity ! Thank to all the team.
Jean
I am not chasing bandpoints anymore, so I was very pleased to work you once, even I heard you on many bands and it was great joy to listen your perfectly work on the pile ups. Those who comment this DXpedition a poorly planned operation “get out of your warm shack and do it yourself under such difficult conditions”.
My congratulations to the team, well done! Come home safely!
73 Jo
Delwyn, call with OC/AS. I heard KH6 do that on 30m the other night, no problems. They can only generalise on areas to call, 73
Why not publishing the TOP dupers of every expedition? Sure then these operators will improve their skills. Hopefully…
Guys, you doing excellent job handling pileups, fighting tides and maintaining broken antennas and rigs simultaneously. Definitely PT0S will get the best rock expedition award. No more words to say further. The only hope you will pay a bit more attention to ASIA (not only JA but SW and Central as well) around our morning grey line when you are really booming on 40/80m but running USA and SW EU pileups.
Btw, how about Ducie next year? ))) 73!
Hi all,
Amazing job for sure !!!!!!!!!
For your information I heard the 10m SSB operator this midday saying that they would not go on 12m anymore since they have heard people saying their split was too wide and that they were occupying the whole band.
Let’s hope they’ll change their mind before leaving…
73
Ronan, F8AFC
It seems they changed their mind, being on 12cw right now.
GL !
Ronan
Fantastic DXped congratulations..
Obvious that as all they especially bring with itself memoirs of every type the ugly ones, but do I think that pain has greater physical memory that the pleasure, as correct that she am….. this for both, activators competitors it doesn’t seem you?
Operational formalities are prerogative of the troup, but I believe that they always owe to be modeled on the field and not to have a rigid scheme thing effected here not.
Opportunity in 6m for me missed of a puff after some days of opening with EA some RF has also arrived on the coast W-Italy and an appearance echo-trouble in I4, but she has been as many amusing seen the a little happy period of openings “very interesting”
Thanks to all of you for the appointment and the spirit that you animated.
Steve ik4dry
I would like to answer to those people who think about resolving the problems of the world..
You know that problems are in continuous to evolve and they will never end, a recipe that takes care of all the evil doesn’t exist, above everything when the beast to be taken care of is the man, you is true also that many of these evil are gotten by ourselves and there are no care ” auto-immune ” as true medical pathologies.
I would humbly like besides to remember that the activity from us turns it is purely an individual thing, therefore it directly reflects our prerogatives, in the global context also respecting the rules of engagement, obviously it has these lapels, that can appear actions of embezzlement, but let’s remember us that in a pileup if it is not also violent it won’t bring him nothing house, if this understood not it changed hobby and fairies the volunteers, will succeed better in comparing you looking for the support and the understanding of the others.
Steve ik4dry.
“PT0S has gone QRT at 10:30 Z.
Thanks for all the contacts and support. Sorry about the QRM”
as per their news update page.
Many thanks guys ! Have a safe trip back home,
Ronan, F8AFC
Thank You!
Not just dxpedition, but DXPEDITION …
73 and take care, Vlatko
Thank you for the new ones on 160m 80m 30m! Great operation! Have a safe trip home.
Thank you for the outstanding effort, it was greatly appreciated, especially the great operation on 160 and 80. You guys are amazing.
Thanks for putting this on the air, and dealing with all the adversity. Still a huge demand for this, judging from the pileups which were never ending.
I’m still of the opinion that for such operations, the emphasis in the ham community should be on unique calls worked.
Tnx a lot for an all time new dxcc and iota !! Great job in very hard condx! You surprise the entire dx’ers with more than 40 000 qsos ! Congrats and take it like an outstanding achivement !
Fred i agree 100 per cent with u for unique callsigns policy for the 20 most wanted
The story of PT0S: Has to be the headline act at any upcoming DX Convention!
What a tale this will be – can’t wait to hear it!
Best Dxpedition of the Year? Quite possibly!
I have worked every DXpedition in 2012 – in my humble opinion, these guys take the honors as best DXpedition. What unbelievable conditions to have to operate under while continuing to log QSOs around the clock with very little sleep. The pileups were huge all the way to the end – I never saw a cluster post for “CQ lonely”.
Take a bow – you guys are the best of 2012!!!!
Congrats to Team PT0S for their activity under truly adverse conditions – obrigado!
Thanks for a very good expedition ! Very possible to be the expedition of the year, I agree with Col.
And on the very first day a few USA stations were making comments that the operator at that time will crash and burn out , only because the expition maintained good operating skills, well sir, the only one that crashed and burned out were you and your few followers with the bad remarks.
TNX for 160/20/10 telegraphy new one.
Work all band barefoot/ keep the DX code of conduct.
It’s work !
73′s obrigado – köszönöm.
HA8MT
Grateful for the solitary QSO that gave me an all time new one. I quite agree about the rule to work uniques first and then provide band-fills later. Some of my friends tried every single day but couldn’t get in the log simply because the QRM was terrible and majority of the callers didn’t obey when PT0S asked for specific areas of the world.The comments on the cluster were quite nasty too.
That aside, an outstanding performance from the ops. Tip of the hat to the 4 gentlemen.
Well, I made a couple of Q’s just after they got going, on the 11th, and after that it was quite impossible! The rest of the world offered it’s share of QRM-ers when I could hear them, and the rest of the time I couldn’t hear them at all.
But I was mighty pleased that I got this one in the log for a New One (305), and wasn’t it great to see the LotW QSL (almost) instantly!
Hats off to the operators, working under extreme conditions.
I’m always pleased to hear of the safe return of the teams from Odd Rocks in the Middle of Nowhere!
I’ll have a beer in your honour today.
Well done and thanks again,
Luke VK3HJ
Dxpedition of the year for a number of reasons:
1 Displayed yet again that super rare locations can be activated without the budget blowing out into the hundreds of thousands (roughed it on local transport, kept op numbers to a small size, liased with Brazilian navy etc, kept equipment simple but very effective). This operation shines the way for showing how we can have more super rare spots activated without the need to spend hundred of thousands in seemingly scare ham radio donation dollars.
2 The team had the correct approach to dxpedition strategy. More time focused on the harder bands (ie 6, 10, 160 and 80 metres) and less focus on the bands in between. This is how it should be. Too many dxpeditions get mesmerised by the easy pile-ups on the “easy bands” and just end up working thousands of stations who have already worked the entity before from prior operations.
3 The team actually stuck to the strategy they promoted prior to the dxpedition departing (ie low band focus). I am frankly disappointed at the number of recent dxpeditions (particularly to Africa / Middle East) who claim they will work all bands and then drop the lowbands because they claim it is too noisy when they get there. Yes the tropics are noisy – yes African cities are noisy, this fact is obvious – so prepare for the conditions by bringing some decent RX antennas along – or just be honest upfront and say you have no intention of doing the hard yards below 40 metres. pt0s was plagued by noise sources of all varieties yet they worked through it and made the operation a lowband success story.
4. Gun cw ops in particular – enough said!!
5. These guys actually listened for specific parts of the world (ie VK ZL JA ) very frequently – most dxpeditions say they will do this but rarely is it done.
I should point out that I did not work them on 6M or 160M (no common darkness in Nov between VK and PT0) but I in no way resented the time they spent on these bands (even when I had no chance of working them).
Congratulations guys on dxpedition of year – clear some space in your trophy cabinet.
Cheers
Paul – vk4ma