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[Now QRT] Z60K – The Republic of Kosovo now on air.Friday Sep 21, 2012
- Sept 24 – ARRL confirm Z60K or any other Z6 station will not count for DXCC.
- Sept 21 - The Z60K license + update from Z60K group.
From left: Mr Ekrem Hoxha, CEO of TRA (Telecommunications Regulatory Authority); Mr Nikola Perci, Executive Committee Member, IARU R1; Mr Martti Laine, Coordinator of Mission Goodwill Kosovo; Mr Besim Beqaj, Minister of Economic Development; Mr Hans Blondeel Timmerman, President of IARU R1; Mr Bob Bardin, of the United States, and Mr Besnik Berisha, Board Member, TRA.
In response to several requests, it is agreed to release a copy of the Z60K station permit for public review. This is also to do our best to avoid any interference from those that may question the legality of the project and the related radio operations now underway.
The permit is released by the Telecommunications Regulatory Authority of the Republic of Kosovo which features this occasion on their website since participating in the project is also the Minister in charge of telecommunications. Under the present circumstances, the Republic of Kosovo is not planning to apply for UN membership in the foreseeable future.
Meanwhile, the country is now proudly functioning with the established procedures in all fields, with an open willingness to integrate with the world at large and to engage in full cooperation with all countries of the world. The 91 countries that have to date recognized the Republic of Kosovo are supporting and endorsing the efforts of the Republic to do so. It is expected that the number of recognizing countries will reach one-hundred soon – the worth of DXCC.
The International Amateur Radio Union, Region 1, is proud to play an assisting role in bringing Kosovo to the ranks of Amateur Radio and assisting the Kosovo regulators and the local Amateur Radio Association to become an integral part of the IARU charter and the world.
- Sept 20 – Copy of Z60K license suggests activity will be until September 24, 2012.
- Sept 20 - Jim Weaver - K8JE, ARRL Great Lakes Director on Z60K activity:
Of interest to DXers is the current operation from Kosovo — Z60K. I want to ensure that everyone interested in QSOing this activity understands it does not qualify for DXCC credit. This is because Kosovo is neither a member of the United Nations nor does it have an ITU-issued call sign block. At this time, Kosovo does not meet the established requirements of the DXCC program.
- Sept 19 – Recommencement of Amateur Radio Services in Republic of Kosovo and the assignment of country call sign – Z6
Based on the provisions and procedures of the Law on Telecommunications and the decision of the Kosovo’s Government for adoption of country’s call sign Z6 (Ref. Decision Nr. 01/89, date; 29/08/2012) as a call sign for the whole territory of the Republic of Kosova, the Board of Directors of Telecommunication Regulatory Authority (TRA) on September 12th, 2012 approved the Regulation for Amateur Radio Services, creating the necessary legal framework for the development of amateur radio services in the Republic of Kosova. [more]
- Sept 19 – QRZ.com on Kosovo (Z6)
Based on the demand of actual amateurs wanting to add Z6 callsigns, and the events which have recently unfolded, we have decided to recognize Kosovo as valid for amateur radio contacts and inclusion into the QRZ database.
We have nothing to say about the internal politics of Kosovo, and we don’t feel that it’s necessary to postpone its membership into our community any longer. Our only desire is to provide a uniform service to all those who seek to enjoy the hobby, regardless of their local or regional geopolitical issues. We’re confident that those who are setting up Z6 stations are worthy of membership in our hobby and we do not feel that it is whatsoever necessary to defer our decisions to groups like the ITU or the ARRL.
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- Sept 19 – The Z60K group update with the following:
As Amateur Radio Regulations are now finalized, Kosovo welcomes foreign operators to visit the country and enjoy being part of a new amateur radio setting. The first eleven operators were licensed on Monday and there are more to come soon. The Z60K callsign is issued to the new Amateur Radio Association of Kosovo, SHRAK, and will be active from new premises as soon as these are fixed. SHRAK President, Sabit, Z61AA together with Ali, Z61DD are heading these efforts. Many individual new licensees are scheduled to have a go at the new radios at Z60K during this week.
Also, individual visitor licensing is now in place and the first visitor license was issued at a gathering hosted by the Administrators and attended by all new local hams as well as their instructors. You may hear Emir, 9A6AA as Z6/9A6AA starting today. An application for a visitor license can be printed soon from the Administrators’ (TRA) website but, in the short term, you can obtain an application form from any of the current Kosovo instructors; G3TXF, N2BB/MD0CCE, OH2TA or OH2BH.
The IARU delegation of Hans, PB2T; Nikola, 9A5W and Emil, 9A9A will be departing today and the folks in Kosovo are delighted with their help. All day yesterday was still spent streamlining the technicalities and the procedures for regulations and licensing as some bands are still subject to certain limitations with other users of the spectrum. For example, 80M is not currently permitted.
We are delighted to be part of this historic week as a new European country is entering the scene. Be prepared as the contesting season is also just around the corner, and make sure to add Z6 to your master multiplier database and expect Z6 stations to appear on the air.
Heart-warming moments were experienced as local operators were given their licenses by a Kosovo Assembly representative and Ekrem Hoxha, Chairman of the Telecommunications Regulatory Authority, TRA.
They have posted their logs on ClubLog so make sure you check it to see you worked the legitimate Z60K and not one of the many pirates, which are on the same beam headings.
- Sept 17 — Z60K — Launch of Amateur Radio in Pristina, Kosovo. IARU Project.
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Z60K now listed on Club Log with the following message:
Provisionally The Republic of Kosovo - pending news from ARRL. This DXCC is temporarily marked as a current DXCC entity in Club Log in order to allow the expedition log search features to function correctly. Approval for this operation will come from ARRL alone.
On September 17, shortly after 17z, international and local ops started operating as Z60K from near Pristina, Kosovo on both 20 and 17m SSB. Operators included 9A9A, MD0CCE, OH2BH and OH2TA. Local TV recorded the moment live on air. QSL via G3TXF. The team apparently received their license from the Telecommunications Regulatory Authority - http://www.art-ks.org/
An Amateur Radio working group headed by IARU Region 1 President Hans Blondeel Timmerman, PB2T and including IARU Region 1 Executive Committee Member Nikola Percin, 9A5W and Mission Goodwill Kosovo Coordinator Martti Laine, OH2BH together with their associates are in the final stages of assisting Kosovo’s Telecom Authorities in drafting regulations governing Amateur Radio in Kosovo, to bring the original Kosovar operators and their re-vitalized Amateur Radio Association back to the international community.
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119 Responses to “[Now QRT] Z60K – The Republic of Kosovo now on air.”
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Hi all,
I’m wondering
- why this discrepancy between ITU and ARRL (1A is a vy good example too)?
- who decided for this Z6 prefix, whose block doesn’t exist anywhere?
- why such a “surprise” effect?
When a “new one” is to be activated, annoucement are made a long time prior to the very first transmission (Remember KH8/s, PJx, ST0 now Z8, etc). The only “sercret” one was the recent 7O6T operation, but from security point fo view, Kosovo is not Yemen….
The near future will for sure answer those questions.
IMHO, because it seems to be the way it will be done, I’m just against validating “retro-actively” any activation of any potential “new one”. First it has to be recognized/published by the concerned authorities, then it can be activated.
As far as “new ones” are concerned, we should never try to invert the “entity validation” process order, since it can only lead to confusion as we can see nowadays.
If we go this way, why not deleting from now “potential” deleted ones ? Just thinking of KH5K or other small islands in Southern Pacific that will soon, and unfortunately, disappear below sea level at high tide….therefore candidate for deletion of DXCC list.
Anyway, as very well said Pit, Kosovo will remain, whatever its DXCC status (decided/influenced by a few) is.
And working pile-ups being a part of the hobby, it is fun indeed to look for them on the bands.
Just my 2 cents,
Ronan, FA8FC
Just now I see Z6/9A6AA
If Kosova no Serbia there are not CEPT !!!
An other illegal call…
Not exactly: Ham Radio is not just DXCC. It is above all respecting your license which says contact legal stations and more importantly “use a legal callsign”.
DXCC may recognize whatever they please. Using an illegal callsign is merely making the operation illegal. And yes 1A0 is also illegal for the single reason that there was never issued *any* prefix from the 1-series.
Any interpretation allowing for using unallocated prefixes, it only achieves to bring ham radio closer to CB (CB-ers have also a DXCC if you fancy).
DEAR FRIENDS
IT’S NICE THAT THERE KOSOVO AREA CREATES SOME AMATEUR ORGANIZATION AND ITS ACTIVITY INCREASES AGAIN, BUT Z6 PREFIX USED IN AMATEUR RADIO CALL SIGN IS NOT ACCEPTED BY ITU REGULATORY AUTHORITY.
IT IS TRUE THAT THERE IS PROPOSED FOR THE NEEDS OF AVIATION CALL SIGN FOR KOSOVO Z6-AAA TO Z6-ZZZ BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR PLANE.
SUCH THAT AN ORGANIZATION DECIDES TO USE A CALL SIGN WITHOUT OFFICIAL DECISION OF THE REGULATORY BODY (ITU) IS WRONG!
ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIVES OF THE ITU BEFORE ACCEPTANCE AND PROPOSED BY THE RADIOCOMMUNICATION WORKING GROUP IN THE ITU.
“…First it has to be recognized/published by the concerned authorities, then it can be activated…”
THIS IS CORRECT WAY …. !!!! WHY SOULD YOU VIOLATE THE RULES …..!!!
IF DXCC APPROVE THIS ACTIVITY OF Z60K FOR DXCC NEED TO APPROVE ALL OTHER TOO (1B1AB [TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS], X60A [ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF AZAWAD]) etc.
BEST REGARDS!
http://www.art-ks.org/?cid=1,23,533
“….. Telecommunications law enforcement and the Government of the Republic of Kosovo to adopt state sign Z6 (dated 08/29/2012) as a sign calling on the entire geographical territory of the Republic of Kosovo, the Board of Directors of the Telecommunications Regulatory Authority has approvedRules for Amateur radio Services, which also created the necessary legal prerequisites for the management and development of amateur radio in the Republic of Kosovo.
Upon re-functionalism and the beginning of amateur radio activities in Kosovo after more than two decades, under the auspices of the TRA in cooperation with the international amateur radio led by the President of the First Region of the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) z. Hans Blondeel Timmerman and local Amateur Radio Association, organized a two-day event on 17 & 18 September. Part of the delegation were eminent personalities international amateur radio, USA, UK, Finland, Croatia, the Netherlands and personalities of senior officials from local institutions, such as representatives from the MEST and the Assembly of the Republic of Kosovo and Kosovo Amateur Radio Association .
During this activity was distributed money to local amateur radio licenses and both international and realized ceremony calls before calling the new sign of the Republic of Kosovo – Z6. The entire event was covered by Radio and Television of Kosovo.
Henceforth Radio amateurs Association of Kosovo and all the young hopefuls who will be licensed, could develop amateur radio service activities in Kosovo using Z6 call sign….”
i think that we must wait the arrl decision about kosovo before to make mega pile-ups !! if kosovo is recognized by the arrl ,it will be as montenegro scenario ! the stations are there to stay ,so why be in a hurry to qso situation ?? everyone will get their qsos ! it is not as yemen ,where radio activity is nil but expeditions ! keep our minds calm,and wait the arrl desk final decision !! there will be a lot of politics in that decision .so keep in mind that nato/usa included is in kosovo ! so -))))
>>> Just now I see Z6/9A6AA
>>> If Kosova no Serbia there are not CEPT !!!
>>> An other illegal call…
Pit YO3JW you’re wrong. How you can say it’s illegal? Have you questioned Telecommunication Regulation Authority of Kosovo?
Make something clever than inaccurate comments: send a mail to them and ASK!
here is website: http://www.art-ks.org/
M0RE: on 11 meters new DXCC prefixes validity date is the same of Ham world.
Please make a serious survey on what you call CB, maybe you could get amazed to find there’s much more circus going on Ham world, as previous politicized comments here, or cluster zoo, state.
And please…. sign yourself as serious people do! Maybe you’re serious, but not signing put you among the flamers.
73!
I know that breaking the pileup is fun, but we must respect the rules.
The Italian law in terms of radio amateur communication allow me to have QSOs with only authorized stations. As far the ITU doesn’t assign a prefix block to Kosovo, I cannot consider the Z6 stations as authorized. It’s fun braking the pileup, but without breaking the law!
73s
good point andrea !the same here for canadian regulations: only 2way qsos with ITU authorized countries/stations !
Hi again
Andrea : In that case, how should we consider your QSO’s with 1A0C :-). Actually, I did the same with them, but without knowing this prefix was not ITU allocated (Just French humour, do not bother too much with this !)
More seriously speaking, I’m looking forward to hearing clear and justified answers to those questions on Kosovo from international organizations ruling our game. Hopefully it will take less time than their still expected answer about EZ-land and their 2011 activity. Long debate ahead :-)
We can also now wonder which ITU or ARRL list should we follow? Not all of us are chasing DXCC and in that sense, they do not bother about ARRL list. To me, ITU list should be the one and only one to officially say if this is a valid entity or not.
Then ARRL could add/remove some entities (like TK for F, etc), but based on worldwide accepted and clear criteria, not based on a few guys “influence”.
This time, that was just my “1 cent”
Ronan, F8AFC
IZ7ATN Simon says:
Pit YO3JW you’re wrong. How you can say it’s illegal? Have you questioned Telecommunication Regulation Authority of Kosovo?
Simon I think that you’re wrong!!! None local authority, even TRA, couldn’t be stronger than international authority ( ITU in this case). Other way it means that e.g. ARI could decide to use Z7 serie and licensing Italians with such a prefix…. In a matter of fact, here is question about goodwill group and their acting. They broke all international rules and regulations, they didn’t help anyone to become HAM, but they are siting in shack and making pile-ups. Another question is: how many non Albanians got license? There are multinational comunity! And for information, more than 60 YT8/YU8 licenses issued to HAMs which are living there, according with all international rules, both Albanians and non Albanians.
Hi Ronan F8AFC.
You are right and I can also add S0 (Western Sahara) and 1S (Spratly) to the list.
But let me say that for 1A, S0, 1S the situation is a little different because they are recognized by ARRL. This could generate confusion and lead an OM to work them even if they are not in the ITU list.
The point is that ITU and ARRL follow different rules to add a new “entity” to the list.
73
Andrea
Gentllemen,
We are mixing two things together here.
The first question, is Kosovo going to be an independent country or not – we should not even discuss, as it has nothing to do with amateur radio.
The second question, whether or not Kosovo is going to be added to the DXCC list, is up to the decision makers at ARRL.
Just read this:
http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter%3Fissue%3D2008-02-22
I think the statement is still valid, Kosovo will be a DXCC entity (sic!!!) when gets admitted to the UN, or receives a prefix block from the ITU.
Again I call your attention to the wording of para 2. of the DXCC list criteria: “A provisional prefix bloc assignment may be made
by the Secretary General of ITU. Should such provisional assignments not
be ratified later by the full ITU, the Entity will be removed from the
DXCC List. ”
So perhaps the Secretary General of the ITU assigned the prefix bloc provisionally. Perhaps not. Just stay calm, and wait for more info.
73 Steve HA0DU
>>Based on the demand of actual amateurs wanting to add Z6 callsigns, and the events which have recently unfolded, we have decided to recognize Kosovo as valid for amateur radio contacts and inclusion into the QRZ database.”
Nice gesture, but being “recognized” by .com is bit of a joke. QRZ.com is just a private website of AA7BQ.
AA7BQ is *not* authorized to recognize or validate amateur radio contacts.
This madness has gone too far.
Well, stellar operation, working East Coast and EU…there are of course other areas you might focus some energy on instead of the same old thing…aren’t you all jumping the gun a bit on this? Don’t have to be the first ones into a country you know…give it time, let things get settled first…
As a Canadian here is my take:
Canada has recognized Kosovo as a country. The ITU is an organization of MEMBER STATES. Kosovo is not a member of the ITU
(yet) so the ITU has no authority over what call signs Kosovo issues although using Z6 (wherever they got it) is good because it has not been issued to any other country so will not cause confusion. Since Canada recognizes Kosovo and the legitimate Kosovo government (as recognized by Canada) issued Z6 and specifically Z60K, then it is NOT illegal in any way for Canadian amateurs to work Z6 stations including Z60K.
VE7IG says: Since Canada recognizes Kosovo and the legitimate Kosovo government (as recognized by Canada) issued Z6 and specifically Z60K, then it is NOT illegal in any way for Canadian amateurs to work Z6 stations including Z60K.
Very interesting point of view. Propose ARRL to introduce two DXCC lists. One normal and the other flexible, to be used by personal will, in accordance with whether my country is recognized entity in question ….. So radio amateurs could choose whether to use a universal DKCC list (this current) or one that is on their personal will and the will of their governments and DXCC local authorities.Completely childih.
Personally, I try to discuss here on the basis of rules and common sense, not on the basis of emotion, that being Serb, of course can not be positive towards Kosovo as an independent state, but it is obvious that there are a lot of speakers, which are maintained by adulation to a few so-called powerful people or own petty interests – to record their new DXCC.their government and DXCC local authorities.
All the above mentioned sites, mainly private, all expressed the personal opinion of the founder. Even the airline labels containing the Z6 at wikipedia page are created by individuals, not by the ITU. It’s not a question of DXCC program, which is also only one program of an Amateur Radio Association – ARRL. The question is whether the ARLL put his reputation and DXCC program to the test, just to please a small group of people with a lot of ambition and questionable motives. DXCC program for decades had strict rules and criteria. Because of that gained his popularity in the world so much. Will they now throw their reputation down the feet because of the small interests of and friendly relations, we shall see.
Hi guys,
Shall we just simply see this like a “prefix” issue?
Not sure. But we, as averge hams, have no privileged information as the operators might have. So we can only make suppositions indeed, which explains this kind of endless debate. .
I must admit that Steve (HA0DU) very well sums up the situation. Nobody officially knows so far what has been issued or not from neither ITU nor ARRL, except maybe the operators themselves.
Once again, why setting up such operation while there are still so many open questions still unanswered….? Anticipating a retro-active effect for either “entity” validation or “ITU prefix allocation” can only lead to confusion.
This is exactly what we see here.
Maybe we are trying to work/working a “not yet new one but soon deleted” one? :-)
73
Ronan, F8AFC
To all DXers,
Although Z6, Kosovo, does not count for ARRL DXCC, it does count in CQ Magazine’s annual DX Marathon! So, be sure to work and log your contacts with Z6 for this CQ Contest.
73,
John K9EL
Administrator,
CQ DX Marathon
http://www.dxmarathon.com
In my previous comment I said nothing about DXCC. I would be surprised if this operation received credit for DXCC but who knows, perhaps in the future when either DXCC criterion is met acceptance of operations may be backdated. I was only commenting on the legality.
As has been pointed out it does count for the CQ 2012 DX Marathon.
When deciding on legality of Z60K operation, please do not raly on ART (The Telecomunications Regulatory Authority of Kosovo) – http://www.art-ks.org/?cid=1,23,533 , which is merely an “authority” in a self proclaimed and secessionistic entity, separated by unlawfull means from the internationaly recognized state of Serbia.
As long as the so-called “Republic of Kosovo” is not a recognized UN country, however big and powerfull their promoters and supporters are, working Z60K means interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state (Serbia, in this case).
I strongly disagree with such acts of unilateral separatism and lawlessness and this is why I will NOT work that Z6.
>>Based on the demand of actual amateurs wanting to add Z6 callsigns, and the events which have recently unfolded, we have decided to recognize Kosovo as valid for amateur radio contacts and inclusion into the QRZ database.”
It would be fair and instructively to QRZ if all those disagreed with the above statement decided to remove their QRZ accounts.
Those politicized comments come from Ham belonging from Serbia and other countries as Russia which haven’t recognized the Republic of Kosovo, but even from a Z3, which lives in Republic of Makedonia which recognized the Republic of Kosovo on 2008 October 9th!
As I remember, Republic of Makedonia suffered a long term ostracism from Greece, so I can comment history is repeating…
Please peel off your political thoughts from your comments, we’re only Ham radio operators, and we should promote brotherhood of nations, people etc…
Wow, what an inverse logic we can see in famous Z6 licence. This is complete nonsense.
http://files.qrz.com/k/z60k/Z60Kauthorization.jpg
Instead IARU grants to TRA the authorization for use Z6 call-sign allocation, we have seen that TRA grants the authorization to IARU president PB2T to use illegal callsign Z60K durring his visit to Kosovo.
Is anybody see something weird here? What is the next, fellows?
Why do you look so intense into the question if Z6 is ITU-allocated or not – or if they break any ITU-rules? The ITU-rules are only valid for their members. If you are not a member of the ITU you can’t break their rules. The ITU (as the UN too) is nothing like a club, society or association (maybe some kind better as a football club, but it’s just a club). No one is even forced to join the/any club. Same as ARRL with their DXCC. Our national HAM law says: we are licensed to contact any authorized station who is allowed to work with HAMs (no need that it is a real HAM station, see “Crossband”-special events, e.g. PCH, GKB, WAR, AIR, NMN, NAV, LGN, DDH47, OEY611, OEH7101 etc.). And they are, they have an authorization from their local responsible government or authority; which is BTW official recognized by my country (which is not mandatory/necessary. I could work Taiwan and other countries who are not diplomatically recognized by my country). Greetings from Germany, Tom
Dear friends, let’s get it straight: The political aspect of Kosovo is an issue not directly related with ham radio. Kosovo did not split because of ham radio. Everyone has his own feelings and let’s try to avoid repeating how we think differently – it leads to nowhere.
The problem with Z60K is that a country (whatever that means in terms of UN and international recognition) has been squatting a prefix series and issues callsigns. Additionally, IARU endorses this act and encourages by their presence this to continue.
The 1A guys are not different. Again squatting an unissued series, just to have another expedition place.
Let’s get serious here and for once decide if we want to follow the regulations or we do any corner we like a new prefix.
Using unallocated prefixes is illegal. As simple as that.
Tom, you can work with anybody you want – but the only thing you could do with their QSL cards is put them on the wall, as they have no validity outside of your shack.
Good luck with the pile-up, soon the novelty will fade but the sense of betrayal will remain.
Tom, you forget that Germany is a member of ITU and the German administration that issues ham licenses, signs and respects the ITU agreements.
And in case you have doubts you can ask them.
Alex
Alex,
yes, no doubts. That was clearled many years ago as some DL HAMs ask if it is OK for us to contact S0, Western Saharaian stations licensed by the POLISARIO front. The licensing authority has not to be in the UN/ITU or even recognized by the German government, they should have only have the “actual power” in that territory and is a subject of international law (“Subjekt des Völkerrechts” in German). And you are such a subject if just one single other subject has recognized you as such. And in the case of Kosovo about 100 countries have done so. It has a territory, defined borders, a “national people” and a ruling government and law enforcement authority – all “have to haves” are fullfilled – more is not necessary to be aceptable.
For us as HAMs we have no rights to decide with foreign government might be good or bad. And it was always a good principle to contact even our political enemy, leaving politics out of our hobby. There is a Kosovo, if you or I like it or not. Even when the Marsian fleet invade earth, we should QSO any Marsian HAMs anboard the Marisian spacecrafts (if they have a Marsian permission to contact us, even when they use the callsign MARS123…hi
And it doesn’t matter if the Mars is on the DXCC or not – the contact is the main fact of our hobby – a new DXCC might a nice addition to the QSO (and the bureau-QSL), but not the main reason.
73, Tom
Is that a LICENCE?
I think that a licence should define clearly at least: address of the station, name and date of birth of the licensee, power of the transmitter, emission type allowed…
Mr Ekrem Hoxha, who signed the authorisation, is the CEO of TRA… Chief Executive Officer? Can you notice something weird?
IMHO… this is a crappy illegal operation. Period.
The Serbian translation of the “licence” header is definitely unprofessional (as well as the English text in the body), and the licence itself is – I do agree with you Tony – incomplete. Not to mention that, IMHO, the regulatory authority is to provide framework for operation and the rules of the game; it is up to the established amateur radio association to take care of call sign allocation and other technicalities.
But the most curious is the “international scope” they refer to in the second paragraph. The whole operation of call sign allocation is in striking discrepancy with the international rules.
Tom: I do not argue about politics here so your references to Polisario, Mars etc are irrelevant.
The Kosovo hams and presumably the Kosovo administration, have been misguided by the infamous international team, to defy the rest of the world who abides to ITU resolutions.
Interestingly, when Kosovo will become UN member what they will actually tell to ITU? IARU gave is callsigns, thank you we do not need prefix from ITU!
The Kosovo republic starts a new country, seeks recognition and acceptance internationally and already the radio regulations are thrown into OH2BH’s and PB2T’s trash bin! Great start!
Wow…I don’t remember this much crying when the former Soviet states broke away from the Soviet Union. Or when S. Sudan broke away from Sudan. Or when Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia.Or when Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan.(etc…)
Have you all worked these “countries”?
Dave AA1VX
Dave, I wouldn’t care less if the breakaway was legal and autochtonous and not given on a plate.
I would sincerely appreciate if this dubious operation was announced beforehand, but I suspect that the creators behind it knew it would have created a buzz and alerted the whistleblowers. Instead, it was sneakily introduced and aimed at forcing us into admission of the fait accompli.
This is, above all, a question of legality.
Tony,
that permission is more you will get in many countries. I hold e.g. an Algerian permission to “do amateur radio” which is made of 2 lines on an official governmental paper only, with a very “important” seal and signature below, allowing me to do HAM radio in Algeria. No local address, no frequencies, no modes, no callsign etc. (therefore I used the callsign and the station of a local existing station).
But you are right Tony, that paper is not a “station licence”.
That is a permission to use the club station of the SHRAK (=Z60K) as a guest OP. Simplyfied ‘Just a permit to be a guest OP’. If you go to QRZ.COM and read Z60K you see, that the TRA now starting to issue real individuel licences for locals and visitors, e.g. Z61AA or Z6/9A6AA etc.
BTW, in my German licence there are also no bands, modes, power or other rules mentionerd, just a phrase like “to operate according to the actual law”.
73, Tom
Dave AAVX: save your tears for Texas:
“The objective of the Texas Nationalist Movement is the complete, total and unencumbered political, cultural and economic independence of Texas.”
“60% of Texans surveyed opposed becoming an independent nation. However, 48% of Texas Republicans surveyed supported it.”
Yes as ridiculous it may sound, it could happen in your country too.
All it takes is bunch of lunatic secessionists to proclaim independent Republic of Texas,
which would no doubt then be recognized by QRZ.com, 35 South American governments,
Cuba, Canada and Australia (we recognize them all, no questions asked).
OH2BH and his clowns would be the first to show up on the air waves with
newly allocated prefix block T1 issued by TNM.
While the entire operation is jammed by W1AW/1-0, Southern clowns are fighting
back entrenched on 14.025 and 7.004….
Seriously, it takes large dose of ignorance to promote and support an activity
which pours gasoline on fire. It took 20 years of hard work to convince Bosnian
Serb, Croat and Muslim to finally accepts one regulatory body.
The ‘next door’ Macedonia is another potentially troubled spot with many unresolved issues.
The Balkan politics is far too complex even for natives, let alone
foreigners who do not have even slightest idea what they are talking about.
Under circumstances, the last thing ham should do is to take sides in political conflicts
or to undertake / support illegal / questionable operations for sake of personal interest.
A new DXCC? Who cares !
Worked Z60K on 30 meters, 9/20 at 2321. Log entry not in there. So, I suppose that means the 30 meter activity today was a pirate again…this is really getting old.
The problem is not in license for operation more immportant why they used a illigal prefix (Z6) .
“Dave AA1VX says:
September 20, 2012 at 23:02
Wow…I don’t remember this much crying when the former Soviet states broke away from the Soviet Union. Or when S. Sudan broke away from Sudan. Or when Eritrea broke away from Ethiopia.Or when Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan.(etc…)
Have you all worked these “countries”?
Dave AA1VX ”
All other country which you listed upward have a APPROVED prefix from world regulatory authority, where members of this regulatory are communication department of each country ( but Kosovo is still not listed inside ) ….
If want to be correct need all this hams together with Mr.Timmerman to use a call YU8K(or some special begin with YU8…. ) and after approved Z6 to start work regarding a law ….
Regarding a below John why you listed only Z6 not 1B ?
“John, K9EL says:
September 20, 2012 at 12:24
To all DXers,
Although Z6, Kosovo, does not count for ARRL DXCC, it does count in CQ Magazine’s annual DX Marathon! So, be sure to work and log your contacts with Z6 for this CQ Contest.
73,
John K9EL
Administrator,
CQ DX Marathon
http://www.dxmarathon.com ”
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September 21, 21:45z – Due to threatening behaviour, absolutely consider this topic closed.